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Homeric Greek: A Book for Beginners
by Clyde Pharr, Wright
Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars
Paperback (01 January, 1986)
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2-0 out of 5 stars What about the big picture?
I've been studying Hebrew for a while now and recently I decided to go ahead and start learning Greek as well. Despite a few warnings from various sources I decided to start with Pharr. This was a mistake.

I don't believe the most effective way to learn a language is to memorize every detail of grammatical feature A and these 30 words, and then memorize every detail of grammatical feature B and those 30 words, and then grammatical feature C and another 30 words, and so on, and then eventually start reading actual text. Rather, you should get a general overview of the features of the language, such that with plenty of help from some reference materials (like a lexicon and charts of verb conjugations) you can manage to decipher most sentences, and then just DIVE IN and start reading actual text, and supplement that with reading from a grammar.

Unfortunately this book strongly favors the first approach and moreover manages to make the latter nearly impossible. I think this is due in large part to the book's format - the bulk of the grammatical information is given in tiny numbered sections in the back of the book. Most of these sections are only a sentence or two long. This setup of course encourages both the author and the reader to focus on minutiae and miss the big picture. We get dozens of numbered points about details of how various verb forms change and next to nothing about what the forms actually MEAN. "835. Verbs beginning with a vowel formerly preceded by a lost consonant (usually vau or sigma), may take the syllabic instead of the temporal argument, as eandanon, imperfect of andano." I really don't care, Pharr. Some day I will, but not right now. What's frustrating is that I know some of these seemingly irrelevant points probably actually ARE important for me to know right now, but since they are all presented in exactly the same way (a number and then a sentence or two), it's hard to know which ones matter.

The charts for declensions and conjugations are pretty bad too. My Hebrew grammar (Seow's A Grammar for Biblical Hebrew) has a chart with every form of every stem for the strong Hebrew verb on two pages opposite each other. Plus, it has an additional chart for every type of weak verb. This makes it very easy to look up a verb form you don't recognize - even if you have absolutely no idea what it is. By contrast, the chart in Pharr showing the full conjugation of the verb is spread over ELEVEN pages! Plus many more pages with charts of other verb forms, for instance -mi verbs. This is not a very user-friendly reference if you commit the sin of not memorizing every one of the hundreds of permutations of the Greek verb before trying to read anything. Granted, Greek does have more verb forms than Hebrew but not eleven pages worth of conjugations for a single verb!

The primary nature of Wright's revision to the text is that he added brief explanations at the beginning of each lesson about what the grammatical forms that were to be introduced meant. This is way better than nothing - Pharr apparently assumed readers would come to the text already knowing what it meant for a verb to be a Middle Optative Aorist. But, these explanations are still not great. They are brief and are separate from Pharr's main grammatical information.

Finally, there is no index.

5-0 out of 5 stars Great for beginners...immediate access to the Iliad
This book has helped me realize a lifelong dream-- to read Homer in the original Greek. This book is a reprint, with some revision, of a text used in the early part of the 20th century. It is not, as far as I can tell "watered down" and the vocabulary started with words that allow the learner to begin reading the Iliad almost immediately. The practice lessons are sentences that relate to the first lines of the Iliad. Both Greek->English and English-> Greek are provided. The first half of the book are the lessons and explanation, the last half is a grammar and usage. The lessons take the learner through the first book of the Iliad. You begin actually reading and translating the first five lines in Lesson XIII. The author also spends times explaining the scansion of the Iliad so that the learner can begin to "hear" the Iliad as well as read it. Although Attic Greek is different from Homeric Greek, I found Teach Yourself Ancient Greek: a Complete Course helpful in clarifying some of the explanations of the grammar and syntax. This book is also available from Amazon. In fact, I don't suppose I would be reading Greek now if I hadn't discovered Amazon (pardon the plug, but I'm hooked!). Finding the complete Iliad can be a challenge. I finally located it at Harvard University Press: Greek and English on facing pages. Join the new Renaissance made possible by the Internet and read the real Homer. It is, to use a common expression, awesome!

5-0 out of 5 stars there are answer keys on the internet for the autodidact
such as the one at greekgeek dot org.Also from time to time a new study group for this book will start, on the forum/message board of textkit dot com. ... Read more

Isbn: 0806119373
Sales Rank: 187910
Subjects:  1. Ancient Languages - Classical Greek    2. Foreign Language - Dictionaries / Phrase Books    3. Grammar    4. Greek Language    5. Homer    6. Language   


A Reading Course in Homeric Greek: Book 1 (Reading Course in Homeric Greek)
by Raymond V. Schoder, Vincent C. Horrigan
Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars
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5-0 out of 5 stars First Look at Homer in Original Greek.
An excellent no frills introduction to ancient Homeric Greek syntax, vocabulary, and translation. This book can, with the assistance of a tutor, quickly bring the reader to some of the first translations of a languagethat is so ancient, that it was spoken way before it was written (onlybecause writing and alphabets had not been created yet!). Anyway, this booktakes the "scare" out of seemingly unintelligable sqiggles andlines.The book also covers the musical verse that the poem was originallysung in. So, buy a copy and sing the Odyssey! ... Read more

Isbn: 0829405097
Sales Rank: 1138346
Subjects:  1. Ancient Languages - Classical Greek    2. Foreign Language - Dictionaries / Phrase Books    3. General    4. Grammar    5. Greek language    6. Homer    7. Language    8. Language Arts & Disciplines    9. Readers   

Homeric Vocabularies: Greek and English Word List for the Study of Homer
by William B. Owen
Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars
Paperback (01 March, 1979)
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3-0 out of 5 stars Good for Beginners, But Could Be Better
The greatest obstacle to reading Homer in Greek is the sheer density of the vocabulary. That is to say, Homer's vocabulary is
enormous. As an attempt to help the student of Homeric Greek acquire a good grasp on Homer's vocabulary, this little book is useful yet not as useful as it could have been.

The book contains word lists covering words that occur up to ten times in the Iliad and Odyssey. Unfortunately, there are serious faults with the word lists. As one reviewer has already mentioned, the verbs give only the present indicative active; with a verb such as audao (to speak, say, utter (something)(to someone)), this is no problem, since the verb only appears in a few tenses in which context and form always guarantee one's recognition of it. However, there are countless verbs which undergo such dramatic changes in form from one tense to the next
that knowing the present indicative active alone is well-nigh useless. Thus, principal parts should have been provided for such words.

Also, there are many words whose meaning changes from one context to the next. The definitions provided for such words in the word lists are almost useless, since they only equip the reader with an understanding of them in certain contexts.

One last criticism: There are a number of words which really do not need to be included in these word lists. Words like kai, de, and alla are so common and so basic that only the most intellectually challenged of Greek students would need to practice them.

So the book is useful for the absolute beginner in Homeric Greek, but its defects become more and more obvious the more
one progresses in one's learning. It's a shame that no one has come up with a better alternative to these word lists. Personally, I would love to see a full vocabulary guide to Homeric Greek such as one can find for the vocabulary of the Greek New Testament, in which principal parts and variant meanings are included, and in which all of Homer's vocabulary is covered down to those pesky hapax legomena (words used only once).

4-0 out of 5 stars Simple but effective
This wordlist is of inestimable value to all those few yet thrice-blessed who still learn to read Homer in Greek.By the time you finish it, you will have at least a nodding acquaintance with every word that appears ten times or more in the Iliad and Odyssey.That may indeed leave a trireme of unknown words, but trust me, knowing the most frequent ones makes it much easier to get the gist of a passage before running to the lexicon.If you are learning Homer from Pharr--as nearly everyone does--this is a good reference to consult to see which words in his chapter vocabularies are worth committing to your active memory.(I wish that Pharr had marked the words of infrequent occurrence.Wright should have done this in his "revision" but he didn't really revise Pharr much at all.)

There is only one shortcoming, though I do consider it a serious one:the list of verbs does not include principal parts, and the noun list does not give genders or stems.You could easily write in the article and genitive forms for the nouns, but good luck trying to fit the five remaining principal parts of a verb on the same line as its entry.So no matter how you solve this problem, you will still need to look up nearly every word.That's an onerous task to inflict on a beginner.With a class of students, though, I suppose the teacher could divide up the drudge-work.

5-0 out of 5 stars A must-do for reading Homer
If you build your vocabulary, the lexicons/dictionaries will become your friends instead of your taskmasters as you read Homer. Use this handy, helpful little gem (making your own flashcards) while you go through Pharr's primer. ... Read more

Isbn: 0806108282
Sales Rank: 268166
Subjects:  1. Ancient and Classical    2. Literature - Classics / Criticism   


Lexicon of the Homeric Dialect
by Richard J. Cunliffe
Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars
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5-0 out of 5 stars Worth Its Weight In Gold
This dictionary is a godsend for anyone who wants to have more than a passing acquaintance with the poetry of Homer. Two things make it an indispensable aid in reading Homer.

First, it gives an exhaustive listing of the various meanings and nuances of meaning that any given word has in different passages of the Iliad and Odyssey. Since there are many words, particularly verbs, that vary in meaning from context to context, the dictionary helps one gain a more 'global' understanding of Homer's words.

The second area in which it proves inidspensable is in helping the reader idenitfy obscure forms of verbs. All too often one comes across a verb in the perfect tense that looks like it could be derived from any number of different verbs. Fortunately, instead of rifling through the dictionary, bouncing from verb to verb to find the one that is being used, Cunliffe does the reader the favor of listing virtually all forms whose
1st first person present could prove difficult to identify and refers the reader to the appropriate verb.

All in all an essential reference tool in the Homerophile's library.

5-0 out of 5 stars The best.
This is quite simply the best lexicon for use while reading Homeric (or Hesiodic, generally) Greek.The text is designed specifically with The Iliad and Odyssey in mind; each word is given, followed by information on _where_ in the Homeric corpus those words appear, allowing for line-specific correlations.

The book also has outstanding morphological information on the words themselves, and a small appendix featuring Homeric conditionals.

This book is *far* superior to Autenrieth, and is more useful than the various editions of the L-S-J in that the words are keyed specifically to Homeric usage, and there are no non-Homeric forms to add extra clutter.


5-0 out of 5 stars Good for in-depth study
This one is good for when you're studying a particular passage closely. It also functions as a concordance! It's a bit slower to use than Autenrieth, et al., but much more authoritative and thorough. ... Read more

Isbn: 0806114304
Sales Rank: 138451
Subjects:  1. Ancient Languages - Classical Greek    2. Literature - Classics / Criticism   


A Grammar of the Homeric Dialect
by David B. Monro
Hardcover (01 January, 1993)
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Homeri Opera: Iliadis Libros I-XII Continens (Iliad, I-XII)
by David B. Monro, Allen Thomas W. Allen
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5-0 out of 5 stars The Second Half of the Iliad in Greek
The companion to Monro's first volume, Iliad I-XII, this is classical scholarship at its best and most essential.Monro produced in the 19th century an edition of Homer's great epic in Greek that is still used byscholars around the world who read and work with the poem's original Greektext. This book is not for beginning readers of ancient Greek, since itfollows the usual format of Oxford Classical Texts and lacks anycommentary.But for those who can read the Greek, this volume offers someof the best moments of the epic:the death of the hero Achilles' greatfriend, Patroklos and his funeral games; the savage return to battle byAchilles and his victory over Hector; the final ransom of Hector's body byhis aged father Priam from his mortal enemy.No one who can should missthe chance to read the Iliad in its original beauty.

5-0 out of 5 stars Homer's masterpiece
This edition, in the original Greek, contains half of the Iliad and is followed by several other volumes, which contain the second half of the Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Homeric Hymns.

The Iliad centers around theanger of the warrior Achilles when Agammenon unjustly takes his concubine. Achilles subsequently refuses to fight, and, because his divine strengthmakes him indispensible to the Greek war effort, the Greeks are nearlydriven from the Trojan shores.

Reading this book in the original languagemakes a big difference.Homer is a master of both sound and sense and toread him in translation deprives the reader of the former.

The lack ofcommentary and vocabulary in this edition does not make it the best choicefor beginners in Greek. ... Read more

Isbn: 0198145284
Sales Rank: 564189
Subjects:  1. Ancient and Classical    2. General    3. Performing Arts   

The Iliad I: Books 1-12 (The Loeb Classical Library 170)
by Homer, William F. Wyatt, A. T. Murray
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5-0 out of 5 stars One of the greatest epics
This review does not deal with the translation issue. I don't know Ancient Greek so can't really say which the best version is. I used the Penguin and Loeb Classical Library editions (in two books) and found them both equally good. The English from the Loeb was perhaps slightly more formal than the freer flowing prose in the Penguin.

But if you haven't read the Iliad, and aren't too fussed about which version is truer to the Greek or more `poetic', then your main concern must be if it is worth your time (and money) to invest in this epic.

At first I did not appreciate the constant "and his armor clanged over him" which became so repetitious that I began to hear the clanging myself. The relaying of messages, verbatim, was also something that I had to get used to. But after these initial misgivings, I came to enjoy the story. It became engaging and I ended up being attached (if that is possible) to some of the heroes in the novel. I felt for Hector as he tried to protect his city from the devastation that would come about should the Argives gain the upper hand.

The battle scenes were very descriptive. Homer certainly made sure his audience knew exactly what happened, whether the spear punctured the right eye, went in through the kidney or split the head in half. You are even given short biographies of some unknown warrior as he is about to die. Perhaps this is of interest to those studying Homer or Greek literature, but to the average reader it might seem a bit much. I mean, do we really need to know the genealogy of everyone that was involved in the battle? Again, that is something you will have to get used to, as the book progresses.

Even, if you know the story or have seen the recently released Troy, I would suggest you experience the Iliad. Yes, you don't read the Iliad as much as you experience it. I was taken back into a completely foreign culture in a completely different time and yet I found that I could relate to Hector, to Menelaus, to Agamemnon, and yes, even to that braggart Achilles. We should be thankful that Homer's Iliad was preserved so that we, in the 21st century are able to enjoy this masterpiece.

I cannot recommend this book enough, there are some things that at first will seem strange to you, but persevere, because when you are nearing the end of this book, and indeed after you have finished it, you will wish it was longer. Trust me. Read this book.

5-0 out of 5 stars "...whether the prophecies of Calchas are true or not..."
The Loeb editions of the classical Greek and Roman
writers are remarkable -- both for their scholarly
contents as well as for the very readable English
translations which accompany the classical words.
The Greek or Latin texts appear on the left side
pages -- and the immediate English translations
appear on the right hand side, opposite.
This Loeb edition of -The Iliad- comes in 2 volumes:
Vol. 1 (ISBN: 0674995791) contains Books I - 12
of -The Iliad-, with an English translation by
A.T. Murray, revised by William F. Wyatt. Vol. 2
(ISBN: 0674995805) contains Books 13 - 24. This
is a 2nd edition of these volumes, issued in 1999.
In explaining why a revision of Murray's translation
was needed, Wyatt says in the "Preface": "A.T.
Murray's translation of the -Iliad- has long set
a standard for accuracy and style. But its archaic
language no longer seems as appropriate as it did
to earlier generations of readers.In revising it to
fit the expectations of today's readers I have changed
little substantively, but have modernized diction
throughout."And Wyatt is true to his word -- the
revised translation reads easily, but still gives
the flavor of Homer's poetic style through repeated
introductory formulas such as: "Then in answer to
him spoke Achilles, swift of foot"and "Then the
incomparable seer took heart, and spoke, saying...".
Also included are the wondrous Homeric similes
with the full force of their acute observations,
poetic flow, and telling imagery.Here is an
example describing the spread of the Achaeans
throughout the camp: "Just as a consuming fire makes
a boundless forest blaze on the peaks of a mountain,
and from afar can the glare be seen, so from their
magnificent bronze, as they marched out, went the
dazzling gleam through the sky to the heavens."
Included in Vol. 1 is an Introduction as well as
an updated short Bibliography of critical text
citations, Editions and commentaries, Recent
translations, Reference, Linguistic, General
works on Homer, and Studies on the Iliad.
And as Achilles says after he has slain Hector,
"There lies by the ships a dead man unwept, unburied --
Patroclus; him will I not forget so long as I am
among the living, and my knees are quick.And even
if in the house of Hades men forget their dead, yet
will I even there remember my dear comrade."
-- Robert Kilgore.

5-0 out of 5 stars Perfect for its purpose
The Loeb series is meant to aid students, which is why its translations often read very literally.When Murray writes, "The wrath sing, goddess, of Peleus' son Achilles," he is following the word order of the Greek exactly: "Mênin aeide, thea, Pêlêiadeô Achilêos."If you buy this book for the Greek text, the literal English translation will help as a quick reference when stuck on a word.If you buy this book for the English translation, you'll gain a sense of the logic of the Greek language and a much more reliable translation than most. ... Read more

Isbn: 0674995791
Sales Rank: 74483
Subjects:  1. Achilles (Greek mythology)    2. Ancient and Classical    3. Continental European    4. Epic poetry, Greek    5. Greek Literature    6. Literature - Classics / Criticism    7. Literature: Classics    8. Poetry    9. Translations into English    10. Trojan War   


Homer: Iliad I-XII
by Malcom M. Willcock
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Selections from Homer's Iliad
by Mark W. Edwards, Allen Rogers Benner
Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars
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4-0 out of 5 stars Good resource
This is a good resource for all the books of the Iliad; however, someone just beginning to read Homer or any original text may need more help than Benner provides. Consider either Iliad I by Pamela Ann Draper or Iliad I by Simon Pulleyn. Draper is better on nuts and bolts grammar and has the vocabulary on the facing page. Pulleyn has the vocabulary in the back of the book, but is better on literary and historical issues. His introduction is excellent: wide-ranging but concise; written in clear, stylish, non-academic prose. These texts cover only Book I. This is a good thing since it allows both authors to limit the vocabularies and Pulleyn to provide a complete commentary on that one book.

3-0 out of 5 stars Superseded by Willcock's work
I have a great sentimental attachment to Benner's Selections, as it was with this textbook that I first read Homer in Greek.I loved the selections, etc.!

However, as students have later come to me with their Homer reading projects, I've placed this side-by-side with the notes in M.M. Willcock's "Iliad of Homer: Books I-XII" and "Iliad of Homer: Books XIII-XXIV," and it just doesn't measure up.Willcock's work is fresher (1978/1984 vs. 1903), and he gives better and fuller help with Homer's language.(Also, he happens to be the more sensitive reader of Homer's poetry.)

If there's a reason to stick with Benner, it's that it's cheaper and gives excellently chosen selections (grammar overview + text + notes) in one volume, as opposed to Willcock's two-volume format covering the entire Iliad.Also, you've just got to love a book (=Benner) that begins, "This edition of the Iliad includes the books commonly required for admission to American colleges..."Also, Benner has a wonderfully written and complete glossary in the back, whereas with Willcock you need also to buy a good Homer lexicon (that is, Cunliffe's "Lexicon of the Homeric Dialect," which is much better than Autenrieth's brief work IMHO).

4-0 out of 5 stars An Excellent Intermediate-level Text
This text is probably the best choice for those who have spent a year learning the basics of Homeric (or Attic) Greek and want to experience some payoff for all the hours spent conjugating second aorists and declining endless varieties of third-declension nouns. The selections consist of long excerpts (five books of the Iliad are included in their totality) of the best parts of the Iliad. As a whole, the selections comprise a sort of "Essential Iliad" inasmuch as they convey the scope of the entire poem from the wrath of Achilles to the burial of Hector.
My only gripe with the editors' choice of what to include is with the omission of Hera's deception of Zeus.

Along with the selections is a commentary which helps elucidate those words and phrases here and there that are likely to cause the relative beginner trouble in construing the sense. In general, the commentary is quite good, though it does let the reader down from time to time. It won't, for example, explain to you what the connective particle in line 8 of Book One means even though no beginner will know what to make of it. Thus, a bit more help could have been given, particularly in the area of particles.

In addition to the commentary, there is a vocabulary comprising all the words used in the excerpts. This is a real bonus, since rifling through big lexicons can be tedious, particularly for a relative beginner. Also, all hapax legomena (words used only once) are listed at the bottom of every page of text.

All in all, then, Benner's Selections From The Iliad is a must-have for those who want to expand upon an elementary understanding of Homeric Greek. ... Read more

Isbn: 0806133635
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Iliad, Book 1
by Pamela Ann Draper
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5-0 out of 5 stars P. A. Draper's Iliad I
I have been a student of Greek for over a quarter century. In all that time I have never found a better aid for the study of Homer, whether as a beginner or for a review.

After a brief introduction and explanation of grammar, the student is brought into immediate and satisfying contact with the text of the Iliad. Ms. Draper provides a dozen or so lines of the Greek text on the left-hand page, followed by a line by line vocabulary help and occasional commentary which flows over, as needed, to the right-hand page. She also includes an explanation of any difficult scansion. As a cherry on top, she adds a concise, user-friendly glossary at the back of the book. It is altogether usable.

I have my copy and have been recommending this book to students and friends.

5-0 out of 5 stars Excellent
This edition was a good choice for me, a beginner who had just finished an introductory class.

The notes on vocabulary, grammar, and allusions to mythology are on the same and the facing pages as the Greek.This eliminates flipping through a dictionary or the back of the book - although there is, in fact, a complete glossary in one of the appendices.

The editor includes "scanning notes" at the bottom of each page to help the uninitiated deal with dactylic hexameter. I found this very useful because my pronunciation is so bad and I really was not hearing the music of the poem.

There is a good bibliography and suggestions for further reading.

Finally, this edition limits itself to just one book of the entire poem. Arguably, Benner might be a more sensible choice to get more of the poem, but I found it much less daunting to deal with just the first book. ... Read more

Isbn: 0472067923
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The Iliad: A Commentary: Volume 1, Books 1-4 (Iliad)
by G. S. Kirk
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Homer: Odyssey Books XIX and XX (Cambridge Greek and Latin Classics)
by Homer, R. B. Rutherford, P. E. Easterling, Philip Hardie, Richard Hunter, E. J. Kenney
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A Commentary on Homer's Odyssey: Introduction and Books, I-VIII (Commentary on Homer's Odyssey)
by Alfred Heubeck, Stephanie West, J.B. Hainsworth
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The Iliad of Homer
by Richmond Lattimore
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5-0 out of 5 stars The unknown Homer.
(Before I start, let me presume you know the story).If people want you to read Homer they say things like: he's the father of western literature or: he stood at the cradle of our civilization. They probably are right but let me give you another reason to read the Iliad: the humour of Homer.

I give two examples. When things turn sour for the Greeks and the Trojan soldiers almost destroyed their camp, Nestor - the military advisor for he's too old to fight - calls the young Greek soldiers at his side and tells them how brave and invincible he was when hé was young. You can imagine the Greeks listening politely but impatiently to Nestor's sermon. What Nestor means is that the youth of today is worthless. I've heard this before. What makes you smile is the bragging of Nestor and the fact that apparently the youngsters are worthless since three thousand years.

Later on, when some of the gods reproach Zeus with not helping the Trojans, Zeus answers: 'You know my wife! If she finds out I'm helping Troy she will be mad at me!'
If Homer was the father of literature then Zeus was the father of the henpecked husbands. If you are reluctant to read Homer, try to discover
some other examples of Homer's humour

5-0 out of 5 stars undeniably the best English language Iliad
Recently the market has been overwhelmed by the Fagles "translation" of the Iliad and the accompanying clamour of praise that the Fagles "translation" has attracted has made it seem that Fagles' version has made redundant all previous translations. The problem with Fagles is that the praise is undeserved as the Fagles version is a "paraphrase" which strays too far from the actual Greek text for it to be a translation.

I own the Iliad in both the original (Homeric) Greek (based on the Oxford version), with a parallel text in modern Greek. The Lattimore translation is the best one available in the English language without exception.

Anyone who wants to get a feel for the Iliad in English cannot go past the Lattimore translation. Hopefully the Fagles fad will fade....

4-0 out of 5 stars The Anchor of Western Literature
I wish that I could say which translation of the Iliad was the best, but as this is the only version I've read, this is all I can review. Lattimore's translation is good and easy to follow, but it seemed to resemble prose more than poetry. If you are looking for more than that, I've heard the Alexander Pope or the Chapman version to be excellent.

At its heart, the Iliad is just a great story. The heroes are the very largest of life and there are many scenes that exemplify a very real human essence within all of them. The Trojan War is presented in graphic, gory detail. There are moments of reprieve, however, with dialogues between Hektor and his wife Andromache and between Achilles and a variety of people. By the end, this book will help you get some of that ever-elusive 'wisdom'.

What struck me as kind of curious is that some reviewers call this an 'anti-war' book. I wasn't left with this impression. This isn't Euripedes we have here. Sure, at times Achilles subverts the Heroic code of the Homeric era, but the book ends (*spoiler alert*) with him gleefully killing Hektor, thus sealing the fate of Troy. The Iliad is too big a text to be simply 'anti-war' or 'pro-war'. It succeeds in the rarest way of literature: all sides are presented, and the reader will have to decide what to take from the book. One thing I'd like to mention: parallels abound throughout the story. Look for them. There are many layers to this story, which is why we still read it today. ... Read more

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Homer's Iliad: A Commentary on the Translation of Richmond Lattimore
by Norman Postlethwaite, Richmond Lattimore
Paperback (01 December, 2000)
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Isbn: 0859896846
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Greek and Macedonian Art of War
by Frank E. Adcock
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5-0 out of 5 stars Excellent introduction to Greek warfare
This book is a little gem. It is the transcription of a series of lessons, each of which covers an aspect of Greek Warfare from the Heroic Age to the Ellenistic Kingdoms.Although short, the book is exhaustive and definitely worth buying for both the military enthusiast and the general reader. The only criticism I might make is that there are no illustrations; this makes it difficult to visualize the chapter on naval warfare. For this reson, the book should be read together with the "Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ancient Warfare" by Warry.

5-0 out of 5 stars A Concise Compendium of Classical Combat
Adcock gives an all-too-brief overview of Hellenic and Hellenistic military art.He begins with the city-state at war and then devotes chapters to infantry and naval matters.Next he turns to the moreHellenistic topics of cavalry, elephants, and siegecraft.He then gives usa chapter on strategy, and concludes with a chapter on generalship.Thebook was an interesting read, and I got to the last page far too soon. ... Read more

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The Odyssey of Homer (Perennial Classics)
by Richmond Lattimore
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5-0 out of 5 stars !!!ROCKETA!!!
homer!what flow-gush resides in you!what scintillata and mercury!what cinder and tumult!he to me is our globe's greatest author not because he has created the greatest work nor because his copious flux of ideas fill shelves of bookcases but because he completely glostounded his contemporaries and remained the most formidable author perhaps for 24 centuries and still is newly translated with each generation every now and again gracing the bestseller lists!who among us in the year 4400 will still capture audiences consistently?who among us will be translated more than a thousand times?who among us can step out of time so effortlessly the all cultures can identify with our predicament.perhaps only a handful of works, le recherche, paradise lost, faust and ulysses surpass this seminal work yet who knows if those works' arch-supremican complexica will prove too burdensome for readers two millenia hence.
homer strikes that importance balance between trivium and import, rather than glostound as joyce has with his unmasking of enigmas that few can understand he instead macro-intrigues us by focusing on a struggle more universal in its scope than any other: the struggle to return home and establish one's self in the safe womb of stability!and the last third of that great work devotes itself exclusively to that moment when odysseus sets foot on ithaca and confronts the suitors in the disguise of a beggar.how we cannot help but root for this titano-hero!how we adore watching him outwit the slaves to vice and concupiscence!how symphio-marvalo is his cleansing of his home from serpèntum!we all strive to secure for ourselves a safe corner on this chattering, infinitely morphing and unstable world yet odysseus' struggle is layered with so much more storms of nails than the common man, even contending with the curse of the sea-god poseidon!

author of Lorelei Pursued and Wrestles with God

5-0 out of 5 stars Which translation to buy?
That is the question which most non-specialists will be asking themselves as they go through these reviews. After reading Lattimore's translation, I would have to say they could do worse than choosing this one.

This version of Homer's Odyssey tries to stay true to the original, allowing those of us that do not speak Homeric greek to catch a glimpse of the true structure of the poem.

Some will say that Lattimore's literalness makes for dull reading. Not so. I feel it preserves the raw beauty of a three thousand year old poem, in which base, fundamentally human, emotional states are explored.

Modern moral standards should in no way be used to mask, by means of saccharine lyricism, the power, indeed brutality, of many of the scenes described by Homer.

Overall, a great book.

5-0 out of 5 stars Lattimore's pride
As with his work on the Iliad, few translators have had the success that Richmond Lattimore has when it comes to THE ODYSSEY. I would be hard pressed to find a better translation since others are either too literal to be poetic or too liberal to be faithful to Homer's story. Alexander Pope's is, of course, one of the greatest, but you have to go back 250 years to find one as enduring as Lattimore's. ... Read more

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Subjects:  1. Ancient and Classical    2. Classics    3. Continental European    4. Greek Literature    5. Literary    6. Literature: Classics    7. Odysseus (Greek mythology)    8. Poetry    9. Fiction / Classics   


The Iliad, the Odyssey and the Epic Tradition
by Charles Rowan Beye
Hardcover (01 January, 1977)
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Subjects:  1. Criticism and interpretation    2. Epic poetry, Greek    3. History and criticism    4. Homer   


Homer : Poet of the Iliad
by Mark W. Edwards
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The Best of the Achaeans : Concepts of the Hero in Archaic Greek Poetry
by Gregory Nagy
Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars
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5-0 out of 5 stars An innovative and engaging approach to Homer
I read the first edition of this book in the early 80s when I was in college, and I have to say that few books stimulated my thought about Greek literature and language as well as this book did. Nagy's thesis is interesting and contoversial (there was quite a bit of debate about it insuccessive issues of the NY Review of Books), and while I don't wish togive a synopsis of his main points without having read the book in such along time, I can assure you that his intellectual rigour and clear,beautiful writing will, at the least, help you to new perspectives on theIliad and the Odyssey. I'm buying myself a new copy right now! ... Read more

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